Session 14 results – and plans for session 15 on Friday 19th April

Something went wonky somewhere with the last post on here!!

Anyway, Session 14.
Fished 7:45am – 4:00pm
A bit of a result – a 6oz roach (Grrr!!! Tell why in a mo) and a bream of about 1.5lb. Two bites, two captures so as good as it was going to be – almost…
Roach – I was fishing two leger rods out about 50 yards and flicking a few maggots just on the edge of the pool while sat there – eventually a set of tail swirls appeared in the maggot fed area and a quick peruse showed 5 carp there – 4 about 4lb or so, the 5th a near, if not actually a, double. So quietly wound one line in, took off bread and size 6 hook and 1/2oz bomb, fitted size 12 hook baited with about 8 maggots and flicked, unweighted, into the tail swirls. A few seconds later the line jerked and started to tighten, I struck and … a 6oz roach… which caused the carp to scatter to the winds. Not a major roach fan anyway but that one definitely not in the good books! Anyway, other than the bream on bread it was otherwise a quiet but pleasant day to have been out.

Session 15 – planned tomorrow for another club pool (LA1). A notoriously difficult water that although stuffed to the gills with fish is little fished due to its notoriety – and therein lies the Catch 22 situation. The water has an abundance of natural feed and thus the fish need to be weaned away from their natural diet and educated to recognise and to take angler’s type baits – but as no-one goes there there’s no baits in sufficient quantities going in to change the fishes feeding habits and thus when people go there’s usually, once in a blue moon the pool does fish exceedingly well, very little, if anything, caught… and so they don’t return. In fact, I’ve fished this pool 5-6 times over the past 2 ‘seasons’ and not even had a single bite. However, my partner has fared better and has had ONE 4oz roach! There are good carp, bream, perch, roach and rudd in there though. So, that’s where we’re (my partner Liz, and myself) heading off to tomorrow. Fingers crossed for a good day!

Session 14 tomorrow – Tuesday 16th April 2013.

Off to a well-stocked club carp pool – need results!

Good bream in there too though – and along with chub will be my main target although if the carp head to the surface later in the day the floater rod will come out.


  • 2 homemade 1.75lb TC tench/carp rods will be fished on the pod with bobbins and buzzers. 8lb mainline to 8lb braid hooklength terminated with size 6 hooks. However, may swap one rod to same setup but with size 12 hook for maggot/sweetcorn depending on how results are turning out. 
  • 1 Winfield ‘Specialist Angler’ rod, 1.75lb TC, loaded with vaselined 15lb braid with size 4 hook for floater fishing possibly later in the day.


  • Bread
  • Maggot
  • Sweetcorn
  • Various meats
  • Hemp (for spod)
  • Pellet paste (for sticking to leger weight as an attractant)
  • Cheesepaste
  • Dog biscuit
  • ‘Specials’

Session 13 – lived up to its numerical reputation..

Fished a “carpless” club pool from around 7:30am to 2:00pm … and then the adjoining “carp and chub”  pool from 2:30pm-3:45pm.

A day mixed with drizzle and  blue skies throughout albeit quite mild.

Water temps rose from 6.3C in the morning to 7.3C by 2:00pm.

Fished the ‘carpless’ pool using a standard lift-bite technique –  using 6lb line straight through, a 2SSG rated ‘driftbeater’ float was overshotted with one 2SSG shot plus one BB shot both placed about 3″ from the hook (size 16) and float set approx 9″ overdepth so that on a slack line the float lay flat on the surface. On casting the rod was placed on two rod rests such that the tip ring of the rod was just in or touching the water surface and the line slowly tightened until the float started to cock and then continued until the required amount of tip was showing. Usually, on a fish taking the bait one of two indication types occur…

  • If the fish stays in place or travels towards you, then as the shot are lifted from the bottom or the line slackened then the float rises in the water… often followed by the float then dropping and submerging as the fish moves further away with the bait… 
  • If the fish moves away from you initially then you may just see a sudden disappearance of the float as it is dragged under.

Note the heavy shotting but also note that the full weight of the shot are not felt by the fish unless the floats lifts enough to entirely lie flat. In this case, my float is rated 2SSG but in fact with a 2SSG shot attached this float only semi-cocks it in that the cork/polystyrene/balsa body is submerged but the antenna section is completely out of the water standing vertical… addition of a No. 1 shot to the line now would sink the float to the tip of the antenna… and another No.1 shot sinks the float completely. NOW… as 2 No. 1 shot equate in weight to a BB shot then this is effectively how my setup was weighted. OK… so now we have the weights on the bottom and the float adjusted to sit correctly in the water by line tensioning. OK, now Mr. Fish approaches and is seduced by the bait offering on the hook, picks it up and whilst doing so lifts the shots from the bottom, and the float arises in response – but although the 2SSG+BB have been lifted from the bottom that entire weight is not felt by the fish – and in fact what happens is that firstly the fish will feel the No. 1 shot’s worth of overshotting until the antenna starts to rise from the water at which point, it will start to feel the second No. 1 shots worth of weighting progressively as the antenna rises until at the point the antenna is completely out of the water, and then it will start to feel progressively the 2SSG’s weight until the float fully keels over when the entire weight is now held by the fish. During ‘lift’ most of the weight is actually still supported by the float – remember, that a 2SSG shot on its own sinks only the body of the float and so until the float rises to that point all that weight is still being supported by the float and the fish only feels the ‘extra’ weight that is not supported – and thus if the antenna is only showing halfway up then the weight felt by the fish is half a No. 1 shot (plus the No. 1 shot used to overshot). OK, so much for the technique used.

Bait was maggot, caster and bread – sometimes individually sometimes as cocktails (mixed).

I did have a few indications – but all quick ‘float lifts and stays’ (generally fish lifted bait, dropped it quickly but relieved line tension in doing so) or ‘dip unders’ (same as first but fish moved slightly away before dropping bait meaning extra tension in line holds float under).

BTW… despite pool being nominally ‘carpless’ I did see one dead body of around 2lb in the margins but think it may have been a crucian – difficult to tell as manky and bloated  and so I wasn’t going to disturb to check for barbules…

Then I went on to the carp pool for an hour… legered bread and floated bread offered but not a nibble nor touch ensued. I may have stopped a little longer but temperature seeming to drop combined with the return of drizzle sapped my resolve.. 🙂

No pics for the day – forgot to take any!

Session 13 – tomorrow

Hoping to get out to a ‘carpless’ club pool tomorrow. Aiming to leave the house before 7:00am and be fishing from 8:00am. I may also have an hour or so late in the day on the carp pool that sits alongside. Originally, with the rising and trending upturn in temps, I’m hoping for some tench action but if they are not playing ball then hopefully the perch will!

Tackle for the day:

  • My 13′ float rod will be my main weapon of the day and armed with 6lb line straight through to a size 16 barbless hook. Already set up and just requiring the float to be attached to the silicon rubber already in situ and then plumbed to depth. Will be laying-on with a 2SSG shot and a BB shot around 3″ from the hook, a 2SSG driftbeater float (obviously overshotted) will be set 6″-12″ over-depth.
  • Alternative set up – also pre-tackled bar weight to be clipped to snap link – is my leger setup… 1.75lb TC (Winfield ‘Specialist Angler’) rod with 8lb mainline, 8lb braid hooklength, size 6 barbless hook. This will be the main weapon if I do visit the carp pool later in the day but also my change of tactic road if required in my tench quest.
  • And a 3rd rod – for floating baits for carp – a 1.75 TC (Winfield….) rod, with 15lb Vaselined braid terminated with a snaplinked swivel encased in a small cork ball  – snaplink allows easy change/fitting of hooklink but generally use around 36″ of 8lb Krystonite fluoro-coated co-polymer with size 4 hook. Baits used with this are generally bread/crust/dog biscuit.
  • Swim rake….


  • Maggots
  • Sweetcorn
  • Specials… (Various JBs)
  • Maize and hemp (part of loose feed)
  • Bread
  • Dog biscuits
  • Meats of various types/flavours (Spam/sausage/etc, plain, chili, garlic, etc)
  • Dips & glugs: Marmite and Monster Crab
  • Groundbait: Consisting of…Breadcrumb, ground birdseeds, ground peanut kernels, dried blood, dried milk, custard powder, Instant Whip, dried milk (proportions are secret!) and to which will be added at the time of mixing, hemp, maggots, bits of JB, maize, crunched up meat particles, mini-pellets.
  • Special ‘glob’ feedbait…. as used for Staffie canal gudgeon back in the 70’s/80’s!!! But hoping the Andrews Liver Salts type results it produced back then are made by tench bubbling rather than gudgeon! 😀

Almost all set now – baits ready in bag, rods loaded and already in car, sandwiches prepped.  A few baits to be retrieved from the fridge before I leave,  flask to do in the morning and then to be put in the bag along with the butties.

Can it be LUCKY 13???

Session 12 – another blank….

The visit to the Staffs/Worcs canal was a bit of a flop – another blank in fact.
Fished 7:30am-1:00pm at ABF.

Was very busy on the stretch I was on – at least another 10 or so anglers – and the swims between me and the access were all taken – including the ones between the ‘No Fishing’ signs (power lines)! Also 3 or 4 beyond me were taken too. However, I was first there at 7am – others seemed to arrive around 9am-10am. Anyway, need to walk further to get away from these intruders at the moment and in the near future. Should be OK later in the year when I start at 3:30-4:00am start sessions – as I’ll have left the water before they even get out of bed… HOPEFULLY! 😀

Will have to look at the OS map to locate sections away from easy access too!

Boat traffic was OK … one boat that was moored just before my swim when I arrived left at 9am travelling away from me, 2 other boats passed at noon.

Fished leger, 8lb mainline, 8lb braid hooklength, size 6 hook.
Baits used were my special (BPJB), bread, and prawn/maggot combo.
Prawn attracted a few bobbin lifts but nothing that developed and baits were pristine on winding in and so suspect small perch at play. Knocks came from boat channel too… nothing at all close to or against the overhanging vegetation on the far bank where the bites would have been expected to come from.
Not a nod or hint of a touch on the special or bread.

Air temp rose from 5C on arrival to around 18C on departure (albeit felt less diue to the chilly breeze – and in fact the 7C in perfectly still air – and after walking several hundred yards in thermals – felt much warmer!), water temps rose from 7.2C to 7.9C over the same period.

Session 12 imminent…

Tackled up for tomorrow’s (Tuesday 9th April)  planned visit to the canal….

Tomorrow’s tackle:

  • 11′ Winfield ‘Specialist Angler’ rod with 8lb line and 8lb braided hooklength to size 6 hook set up for legering.
  • A Grandslam ‘Des Taylor Avon Combo’ with 8lb line, 8lb braid hooklength to size 12 hook set up for legering.


  • Bread
  • Maggot
  • A couple of ‘specials’

Aiming to go out about 7am.


UPDATE: Just received notification of a delivery due tomorrow that will need signing for.
Trip postponed to Wednesday now as Liz will be out at work…
Butties, already done, will have to be fridged.

Session 11 – To The Pool (Unknown)

April 5th, a beautiful day with blue skies and white fluffy clouds.

Air temp on arrival at 8am of 6C but rose throughout the day with a nominal temp of 15C at 4pm when I packed up… but did reach 21-22C at times from mid-day.

Water temp at 5.1C on arrival, risen to 6.2C by departure.

Fished the 2 leger rods – the size 6 hooked on in deeper water with larger baits (bread, jelly bread, prawn, etc) which were changed hourly and the size 12 hooked in the margins with maggot for the first half of the day, then with small prawn.

Had small nudges/lifts on both rods and on all baits throughout the day but nothing of consequence and so ended the day with a cheque book and pen – blankety blank.

Was a glorious day to be out though and rising water temps are making a visit to the club’s tench pool next week a rising possibility 🙂

Next trip out though likely to be a return to the Staffs/Worcs canal on Tuesday of next week in search of carp, chub, perch and bream.